There is certainly no reason not to voice an opinion. My complaint is why we need to get down right nasty about it. We also have to remember that the real Frankie Valli and Bob Gaudio were in on the casting decisions and I feel they have perfect taste in the talent they chose. Blessings on them and all of the casts and crews in all of the productions. You gave my heart something to sing about.
London mini-review, March 11 and 16(68 posts)
Please pay Leanna no mind. She always has a dissenting opinion on Fan Favoritesâ€¦itâ€™s how she draws attention to herself. Nobody knows who the hell she is and just hides behind a screen name.
Leanna, fine you did not care for Ryanâ€™s performance couldnâ€™t you just leave it at that? Was it necessary to overtly berate so rudely every aspect of Ryanâ€™s performance? You really have no CLASSâ€¦ not that you ever did.
As far as JLY not well suited to play â€œFrankieâ€, he only won every single Theatre award in 2006 and it his voice you hear on the Grammy winning Cast Recording. You obviously do not recognize talent.
Leanna, why are you wasting your time here? Youâ€™re skilled with the â€œlinksâ€â€¦go start your own group or better yet go hang out @ BWW where your sarcasm is appreciated.
WOW!!! What a mess this has caused, I think this calls for a clean up in aisle 4!!!
We all know what comes with Leanna, Lizzie, or Lil', a big old bag of mess!! I think Charly hit it right on the nail, maybe your stay has been long overdue, take a break, get a breather, and please clean those glasses!!!
btw i hope this adds to your really good time that you had :D i know it will
Maybe we should start our own group for hero worshipping Gary ?! :))
She always has a dissenting opinion on Fan Favoritesâ€¦itâ€™s how she draws attention to herself.
Let's see. I think one would consider Deven May, Jeremy Kushnier and maybe those other guys I mentioned in my first post in this thread to be fan favorites. Since I liked them, that was hardly a voice of dissent. I wouldn't use the word "always."
Leanna, fine you did not care for Ryanâ€™s performance couldnâ€™t you just leave it at that?
I said nothing and was asked about it. I said something and was berated for it. I couldn't win either way.
Nobody knows who the hell she is and just hides behind a screen name.
Really? Because this is my real name. I may not be a Four Seasons bus tour socialite, and I may not show up in Slide galleries on the main blog, but when I walk into my kitchen and look at the shelf formerly owned by a cast member (ok, so it was technically sold to my roommate)... well, never mind, I digress.
btw i hope this adds to your really good time that you had :D i know it will
It's perfect, actually -- it makes up for us showing up to our favorite pub on our last day in London only for it to be closed. Aw.
Anyway. If people would like to continue this discussion, feel free to email me directly at coneybear [at] mac [dot] com. I would be more than welcome to take this thread BACK to discussion of the review itself rather than the the person who wrote it.
Pamela i do think its time !!
Do we have to get up before noon? Our boy, Gary rarely gets up that early!!
no noon is fine just dont use all the towels x
I have been a long time lurker on this board and finally felt the need to post.
There are several of you (socaljbfan, charlyca, phillygalg) that seriously need to take a step back and take a look at themselves. You preach to everybody here that we all need to get a long and everybody has their own opinions, yet when somebody doesn't agree with you, you go off on your little tangents.
Many of your posts come off very infantile and maybe you should start practicing what you preach for once.
Couldn't agree with you more thevig.
Three times Leanna refused to comment - I call that verging on superhuman. But my main complaint reading this forum is that the people you mentioned in your post, especially socialjbfan come across as embittered, screaming yahoos. Constantly looking for excuses to put down the poster Leanna - and don't tell me that I don't know the history, I've been reading this board for a long time!
If you were really so concerned about the feelings of others you would cease with the personal attacks. You socialjbfan (social? what a misnomer) with your constant attacks about Leanna wearing glasses! Give us a break! You philyglag with often reinterated mantra about never posting on this board again. You CharlyCA - people with real class would never say to others that they don't!
On the subject of the London production, I know someone who flew to London for a weekend solely to see the show and walked out at intermission. So start the attacks.
Or grow up.
thevig & PR I'm flattered that you both feel this way. If you know the history of Leanna then you should also be aware that many, many users not just me, charly, or phillygalg have had their own history with her. I felt the need to say something a long time ago because it really got to the point where it was left and right with attacks from them to begin with. And I don't constantly put Leanna down, well maybe I do but I have on rare occasion agreed with her on certain things and she agreed with me on one thing in particular that I remember mostly was when that person came on the board talking about whether the writers of the song should be given their royalties. Anyways, long story short here is one thing I will say about Leanna, look at the thread that I'm going to bump up next.
oh and one more thing PR, I WEAR GLASSES TO SO CALL ME FOUR EYES, haha I just happened to see a few a photos of Leanna a long time ago and assumed she had glasses, call me a liar if I didn't see glasses on that face if not then maybe I need to get a new prescription then oh my goodness this is just what I needed, AND I LOVE IT!!!
PR, the only other time you have posted on this Forum was of course in support of Leanna.
"Clue: The real Four Seasons were never quite THAT good looking... ;)"
I'm pretty sure most people would view this statement as having "No CLASS".
Charly look at the one when PR had to come to Leanna's defense...its hilarious!!!
SOCALJBFAN, like I said, why don't you practice what you preach because I have yet to see you do that.
thevig HAHA didn't you leave along time ago... I remembered what I said but since you are a history expert then why don't you tell me what I preached because if you were to do that then please by all means paste it here so then I can just put you in your place again.
My manners and actions mught be deemed by a few people on here as RUDE, BULLYING, and sarcastic, but my CLASS hasn't flew out the window yet...
TAKE ME BABY OR LEAVE ME... FROM RENT!!!
P.S. PR, my username is SOCALJBFAN and its spelled that way too. SOCAL meaning southern california and jb fan meaning, why you should be smart enough to realize what that means. Now connect the two and what do you get - SOCALJBFAN :)
Just for you decidely nasty people...I happen to love the "Jersey Boys" shows. I just can't understand why you all feel it necessary to pick on those of us who are not as important to the blog as you all seem to think you are. My name is Gladys and I am a 62 year old woman who is about to retire after 41 years with my company. I resent being berated on this blog by you cyber bullies. You seem to enjoy making people feel inferior and small. You want me out...ok! But I sure hope that the "Jersey Boys" show that started this forum continues brings enjoyment to everyone who is not looking for their own "spotlight". God Bless You All!
well for a thread that started off talking bout ryans so called lack of talent,it seems to have moved on to a load of old tosh!..fact: ryan is a star...fact:for those in the states that dont like ryan or the show...well dont go see it again...no one makes you...fact:us jb londoners will keep going and going and going..coz ryan and his cast mates are fab!..and the show,is by far the best thing in the west end at the moment..and this is coming from someone who has way more going on in her life than just jb!..
this seems to have gone back to being in the playground..yet without the cool climbing frames!!
ps: we love ya charly!..take no notice!!..
As Churchers always "preaches" - "think sky blue"! Breeeeeeathe. Jersey Boys rock and so does Gary!!
Gosh things are getting out of hand. As Churchers said if you dont like Ryan
or the show then keep away. There was no need to be so nasty about Ryan in the
first place. If i took a dislike to a certain Frankie's performance i would not
not go and watch him again so i dont understand why you gave the show another go
when you knew Ryan was playing. nothing stranger than folk comes to mind
TheVig, People should be allowed to say what they think about the show, and the cast member's but you dont have to say it in such a vile way.
It's all been kicking off since i have been recovering from Jetlag, but not in a nice way
Leanna what you said about Ryan was way over the top. He is not going to appeal to everyone, but to say the things you did were nasty to say the least. I on the other hand think he makes a fantastic Frankie and long may he continue to do so.
Um phillygal, nobody said they wanted you off the board.
'As Churchers always "preaches" - "think sky blue"! Breeeeeeathe. Jersey Boys rock and so does Gary!! '
Amen to that dear
Dont worry; we dont have to use the same towels or soap, definetely separate rooms!! The Gary fanclub is ubiquitous and goes cross country and transatlantic as well. Take deep breaths and think clear, calm Jersey days people...
I am so angry by this thread!!
I think I am right in stating that this forum is for fans of Jersey Boys, to get together and talk about the show and exchange fun experiences & gossip & to hook up with fellow fans. It is certainly NOT the place for anyone to be rude or nasty about the show or the Cast!!
There are a small minority on here, who are just not welcome, so I suggest you start your own little forum - we can assure you we won't bother you, so please stop bothering us!!
phillygalg - please don't feel bullied by these social misfits, who, as Charly quite rightly says "have no class"!! Your posts are welcomed on here - so you had BETTER NOT leave us!!
Charly thanks for your post - well said!!
I do not usually support banning people - but the time has come for the Administrators of this forum to ban the minority who are spoiling this forum for others!!
This thread demonstrates why I won't have a forum on Stephen's site - I have better things to do with my time than deal with lowlife who seem to just come on line just to cause trouble. I can only fel sorry for these people as they obviously don't have a life!!
I don't understand why everyone is taking this so personally. They're actors. They know that praise and criticism come with the nature of their jobs, including comments that are as colorful as the ones we've all seen in this forum. This whole outrage thing is pretty ridiculous.
In sticking to the topic of the thread, I have also seen the London cast and thought that it was great overall. You know, if you if there was a thread called "We love Ryan Molloy," Leanna would probably stay out of that discussion and everyone could gush about him all they'd like with no dissenting views.
For all that this is supposed to be about fans who love Jersey Boys, I'll admit that I have lurked here a long time and never posted as I was afraid I'd slip and mention that someone was my "favorite," and then I'd be banished to the "no class" basement prison and be berated. You love the show and that's fabulous-- I love the show too. That doesn't mean that I've loved every single thing that every single actor I have seen has done; that's just not realistic.
We all see things through our own experiences, and being critical is, in a way, a compliment. By deeming someone your "favorite," that means you have analyzed what you saw, and it's not to say that the other performers were bad, just that one performer was the "best" at the role in your opinion. If you want to be kumbaya about everything and love it all equally, that's fine, but not all performances are the same or sometimes at the same level and it's not wrong to see that and have an opinion about it. And since you're judging from your experience base, someone else could see the same performance and come to an entirely different conclusion-- that's the way it goes.
Actors are in the public eye and their acting is a "product" which people will be having opinions about, good and bad. I hardly think that Ryan Molloy or JLY (or any JB actors, for that matter) are clutching their awards and sobbing because someone on the internet didn't like their performance, and I don't understand how someone on the internet disliking a performer takes anything away from your enjoyment of that performer.
I am also bewildered that apparently if a person doesn't like one performer in a show that they should avoid a show that they enjoy forevermore. There are plenty of things to enjoy about JB, regardless of how you feel about any one performer in the show. There have been any number of actors I have seen that weren't my favorite, but I still enjoyed the show overall.
In this thread, it seems to me that the original poster deliberately left out a review of a performer that many people here enjoy, and only elaborated when asked. Maybe everyone should just take a deep breath before you fly into histrionics-- you can go on loving Ryan Molloy just as much as before, and he'll be treading the boards just the same, regardless of what is said here.
"I resent being berated on this blog by you cyber bullies. You seem to enjoy making people feel inferior and small."
Are you joking? Or serious? So it is OK for you and your gang of cyberbullies to engage in it but if anyone speaks up against what you are doing you cry â€œCyberbullyâ€. A bit of the pot calling the kettle black dontcha think? I am now wondering if you actually know what cyberbullying is, because it is exactly what you and your select little group engage in all the time.
"call me a liar if I didn't see glasses on that face."
You miss the point â€“ who cares if Leanna wears glasses! A large percentage of the population do, but why do you have to keep making snide, sniggering remarks about it?
"PR, the only other time you have posted on this Forum was of course in support of Leanna.
â€œClue: The real Four Seasons were never quite THAT good lookingâ€¦;)
Iâ€™m pretty sure most people would view this statement as having â€œNo CLASSâ€."
I remember exactly when I felt compelled to join this forum and post before, am not even going to bother to look it up now, but what is wrong with that statement? It is perfectly true and quite a mild statement at that. The real Four Seasons were never quite (qualifier) THAT (emphasized) good looking (wink). And then the cyberbullying startedâ€¦ calling on Jackie Gleason as the lord-god of class LOL.
"my CLASS hasn't flew out the window yet..."
This statement speaks for itself
"I do not usually support banning people â€“ but the time has come for the Administrators of this forum to ban the minority who are spoiling this forum for others!!"
As Stoy said â€“ these people are actors, if they canâ€™t take reviews of their work then they really are in the wrong business.
One more point. I have never met Leanna and do not know her â€“ but I donâ€™t like cyberbullying!
PR, you say that you have never met Leanna and you donâ€™t like cyber bullying but yet you are so willing to stick up for Leanna and continue to use the â€œoh Iâ€™m so innocent, but let me go and do the same thing that I donâ€™t like others doing to othersâ€ Please spare the violins and sorrow and come up with a better excuse.
Why are you so mad?
You sure do love that paste function I see!!
I love every bit of this and one more thing
I only remember one person using that "word" as an opening for any sentence they started when they were upset.
Learn how to hide yourself a little better instead of registering under another name just to get your point across and have the courage to type away at anyone with your fake name instead of your original name, same goes for you PR :)
It's ever so apparent that PR & thevig are either one in the same or two seperate "people" and are constantly "lurking" the boards again and again waiting to correct someone or be the BOARD PATROL once again...may I kindly welcome you back! Unless it's Leanna by herself which I really don't think so because she needs others to fight her battles :D LOL
OH! WHAT A DAY!
p.s. - "This statement speaks for itself"
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