Lori, I have generally gotten there 1 to 3 hours before they go on sale which as you know is 2 hours before curtain. With that guideline, I have always made it in. When I was determined to see Travis a year ago (on a Sunday), I got there at 10 am for a 3:00 show and was the 3rd person in line. It took at least an hour, I'd say, for the next person to get in line. That was the earliest I have arrived. The latest was an hour before they went on sale for a Tuesday show. I think there were 7 people ahead of me. All these were days of decent weather, btw.